Free cash flow is defined as cash from operations plus capital expenditures. Smith team delivered third-quarter sales oi f $943 million, a year-over-year increase of 4%, and EPS of $0.94, a 15% increase over 2024. North America sales grew 6%, primarily as a result of our pricing actions and strong commercial water heater and boiler volumes. We achieved North America segment margin expansion of 110 basis points and rest of world segment margin expansion of 90 basis points.

Pureit contributed $17 million of sales in the quarter, and our legacy India business continued its strong double-digit growth trajectory by delivering 13% growth in local currency. North America water treatment sales decreased 5% in the third quarter, as continued growth in our priority channels was more than offset by an expected decrease from the retail channel. Our priority dealer, e-commerce, and direct-to-consumer channels grew 11% in the quarter. Despite these challenges and the resulting volume pressure, we achieved 90 basis points of margin expansion compared to last year through the restructuring initiatives we undertook in 2024 and other cost-saving measures.

North America segment earnings were $180 million, an 11% increase over the third quarter of 2024. Segment operating margin was 24.2%, an increase of 110 basis points year-over-year, primarily due to pricing actions and higher volumes, more than offsetting higher material and other input costs. Moving to slide seven, rest of the world segment sales of $208 million decreased slightly compared to last year and included $17 million of sales from the Pureit acquisition. Rest of the world segment earnings of $15 million increased year-over-year as continued expense management and the benefits of restructuring actions more than offset lower volumes in China.

What went well
  • A. O. Smith delivered third-quarter sales of $943 million, a 4% year-over-year increase, and EPS of $0.94, up 15% over 2024.
  • The North America segment posted sales of $743 million, up 6%, with segment earnings of $180 million (up 11%) and operating margin expanding 110 basis points to 24.2%, driven by pricing actions and higher commercial water heater and boiler volumes.
  • North America water heater sales rose 6% on pricing actions and higher commercial volumes, and North America boiler sales increased 10% on pricing and higher volumes of high-efficiency boilers.
  • The legacy India business continued its strong double-digit trajectory with 13% local-currency growth, and the Pureit acquisition contributed $17 million of sales in the quarter.
  • Despite lower China volumes, the rest of the world segment expanded operating margin 90 basis points to 7.4% and grew earnings to $15 million through 2024 restructuring actions and expense management.
  • North America water treatment priority channels (dealer, e-commerce, and direct-to-consumer) grew 11% in the quarter, and the plan to drive 250 basis points of operating margin improvement in that business is on track.
  • Cash generation was strong: operating cash flow grew 21% to $434 million and free cash flow grew 35% to $381 million in the first nine months; the board raised the quarterly dividend 6% to $0.36 (32nd consecutive annual increase) and the company repurchased about 5 million shares for $335 million while raising full-year buyback intentions to approximately $400 million.
What went wrong
  • China third-party sales fell 12% in local currency as ongoing economic challenges, reduced availability of government subsidy programs, and an increasingly competitive, promotional environment pressured volumes.
  • North America water treatment sales decreased 5% as continued growth in priority channels was more than offset by an expected decline in the retail channel.
  • Rest of the world segment sales decreased slightly versus last year, and management noted Pureit will remain a near-term headwind with no significant bottom-line contribution this year as integration continues.
  • Management believes Q3 residential water heater industry volumes declined year-over-year, and tariff costs began to bite in the third quarter and are expected to increase into the fourth quarter.
  • Steel costs were expected to rise 15%-20% in the second half of 2025 versus the first half, and gas tankless carried roughly 20 basis points of margin pressure in the quarter.

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodCurrent guidance
Full-year EPSFY2025$3.70-$3.85
Full-year total sales growthFY2025flat to up 1%
China sales (local currency)FY2025decline of approximately 10%
U.S. residential water heater industry unit volumesFY2025flat to slightly down
Commercial water heater industry volumesFY2025up low single digits
North America boiler salesFY2025increase of 4%-6% (unchanged)
North America water treatment salesFY2025decline approximately 5% (unchanged)
Pureit sales contributionFY2025approximately $55 million (slightly higher)
North America segment marginFY202524%-24.5%
Rest of world segment marginFY2025approximately 8%
Annualized tariff impact on total COGSFY2025approximately 5% increase
CapExFY2025approximately $75 million
Free cash flowFY2025approximately $500 million
Interest expenseFY2025approximately $15 million
Corporate and other expensesFY2025approximately $75 million
Effective tax rateFY2025approximately 24%
Diluted shares outstanding (year-end)FY2025142 million

Performance Breakdown

MetricYoYNote
Total sales +4% ($943 million) North America pricing actions and strong commercial water heater and boiler volumes, partly offset by China weakness
EPS +15% ($0.94) Segment margin expansion and share repurchases
North America segment sales +6% ($743 million) Pricing actions plus higher commercial water heater and boiler volumes
North America segment earnings +11% ($180 million) Pricing actions and higher volumes more than offsetting higher material and input costs
North America operating margin +110 bps (24.2%) Pricing actions and higher volumes offsetting higher material and other input costs
North America water heater sales +6% Pricing actions in response to higher tariffs and input costs, plus higher commercial water heater volumes
North America boiler sales +10% Pricing actions and higher volumes of high-efficiency boilers
North America water treatment sales -5% Priority channel growth more than offset by an expected retail channel decline
North America water treatment priority channels +11% Growth in priority dealer, e-commerce, and direct-to-consumer channels
Rest of world segment sales decreased slightly ($208 million) China decline partly offset by India growth and $17 million from Pureit
Rest of world segment earnings increased ($15 million) Continued expense management and restructuring benefits more than offset lower China volumes
Rest of world operating margin +90 bps (7.4%) 2024 restructuring initiatives and other cost-saving measures
China third-party sales (local currency) -12% Ongoing economic challenges, reduced government subsidy programs, and an increasingly competitive environment lowering volumes
India legacy business (local currency) +13% Continued strong double-digit growth trajectory
Operating cash flow (nine months) +21% ($434 million) Lower inventory balances, partly offset by other working capital outlays including lower China customer deposits
Free cash flow (nine months) +35% ($381 million) Lower inventory balances, partly offset by other working capital outlays

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious mentionCurrent periodTrend
China strategic assessmentAnnounced intention of a formal China strategic assessment last quarterMaking good progress; commissioned a third-party market analysis that confirmed the brand remains strong, validated the smart-home/AI-link category expansion strategy, and identified go-to-market and business-model opportunities; no outcomes ruled out yet, still early
Portfolio management and M&AOngoing capital-deployment priorityActively assessing strategic opportunities with sufficient dry powder; active pipeline focused on strengthening the core business or building new growth platforms; not dependent on the China decision
Operational excellence and innovationCEO's stated focus areas laid out last quarterHosted a leadership summit of the top 140 leaders; welcomed new Chief Digital Information Officer Chris Howe (generative AI background) and a new CTO to bring more operating discipline and accelerate commercialization; opportunity not yet sized
Production level-loading efficiencyProduction efficiency initiative limited first-half pre-buy impactLevel-loading closer to market drove Q3 commercial and residential water heater strength and enabled share gains despite a down residential industry
Gas tankless entryPlanned launch shifting from China to North America manufacturingNorth America products and manufacturing capability ready; strategy changes caused delays; market under pressure tied to residential construction; roughly 20 bps of margin drag this quarter, down from the ~40 bps historically cited; positive customer feedback
Tariffs and pricingPrice increases effective in the second quarterTariffs began impacting Q3 and increase into Q4 (~20 bps on North America margins); annualized tariff impact held at ~5% of COGS; company comfortable with its price-cost relationship but expects some Q4 margin pressure

Q&A Summary

On China, you lowered sales expectations. How is your performance versus the overall market there, and is this a weaker market or competitive dynamics?
It is a bit of both. The market remains challenged, government-subsidy-driven demand was pulled forward and is now on the other side, and competitive intensity is rising with heavy promotional activity replacing subsidies. The A. O. Smith brand remains strong with an innovative portfolio, but the company must work through this challenging period.
North America commercial water heater was a bright spot; you previously attributed some strength to pre-buy. What is driving it?
Commercial market conditions are strong and A. O. Smith has a strong portfolio, including the newly launched Flex commercial water heater performing well. The CFO added that the Q3 production efficiency/level-loading program contributed to the commercial and residential water heater strength.
On the China strategic review, has the range of potential outcomes narrowed given the assessment so far?
No, not yet. It is still early and no outcomes are ruled out. Good work has been done profiling the market with third-party assessment and reaching out to other participants, but there is no view on the ultimate outcome yet.
North America water treatment priority-channel growth of 11% aligns with the 10%-12% organic target from Investor Day. Is that growth rate in play going forward?
That is how management thinks about the business long term, though more work and investment remain to build out the platform after reprioritizing channels; they feel good about the growth potential.
On U.S. residential water heaters, you kept industry shipment assumptions but leaned more cautious. How do you see it playing out?
The outlook moved from flat to flat-to-slightly-down, with pressure coming from residential new-home-construction completions; the assumption was taken down just a bit.
Is the market share recapture playing out as expected?
Yes; as production was level-loaded this year, Q3 performance relative to the market came back and gained share as expected.
You mentioned additional tariff headwinds. Where are you seeing them, and how does steel/tariff pricing inform 2026 pricing actions?
The tariff comment framed Q3-to-Q4 timing, roughly 20 basis points on North America margins as heavier tariffs accumulate; the full-year 5% estimate is unchanged. It is a timing pressure on Q4 North America margins; the company will give a cost outlook in January given tariff volatility.
What are you seeing on the residential discretionary/proactive replacement side beyond lower housing starts?
No real change; the quarterly survey shows proactive replacement remains resilient and above 30% on a trailing-12-month basis, though management will keep watching for any developing trend.
Absent incremental actions in 2026, is the pricing you have taken enough to be price-cost positive or neutral once catch-up occurs?
Pricing was handled as usual aside from the larger increase to cover the tariff costs, typically covering margin plus cost, with the last increase effective in Q2. Prices fade somewhat over time; the company is comfortable with its current price-cost relationship but sees some Q4 margin pressure and will address 2026 next quarter.
On China, are there thoughts on additional restructuring initiatives ahead of a potential strategic announcement?
It is something to work through during the strategic assessment; there are go-to-market and business-model opportunities that could be pursued via self-help or partnerships, with the goal of setting the business up for success and some benefit from any market recovery.
What is the M&A pipeline like in the current environment, and is timing dependent on the China review?
A strong balance sheet and cash generation support an active pipeline evaluated through strategic and financial lenses, focused on strengthening the core and building higher-growth businesses; it is not connected to other portfolio decisions, and the company is ready to move on the right opportunities.
Update on gas tankless relocation, market development, and its Q3 and implied Q4 margin impact?
The North America product and manufacturing investment is progressing well, but the tankless market is under pressure tied to residential construction. Strategy changes (shifting from a China launch to North America) caused some delays. Q3 margin pressure was about 20 basis points, less than the ~40 bps historically cited; customer feedback on the market-leading product is very positive.
What is your expectation for the seasonally stronger fourth-quarter selling season in China?
Q4 is typically among the strongest quarters in China, and the outlook assumes a volume uptick versus Q3, but year-over-year comps get tougher in Q4 within the down-10% full-year framing; without the discontinued subsidy program there is uncertainty, so normal cadence is assumed but not at normal volumes.
On boilers, you mentioned possible pre-buy; is the boiler sales cycle elongating due to market uncertainty?
There was some pre-buy on smaller inventoryable boilers after strong quarters, with some Q4 headwind expected as that unwinds; overall market quoting remains steady, particularly on large Crest units, with no major change or elongation in the quote-to-order cycle.
Stepping back, how have you sized the cost-out opportunity and new-product growth potential at AOS heading into 2026?
The opportunity is not yet sized, but operational excellence and innovation are priority areas; bringing more operating discipline, leveraging technology investments (aided by new CDIO Chris Howe) and a new CTO to accelerate commercialization are seen as meaningful opportunities being built on a foundation.
Any color on resi channel inventories and destocking risk given weaker consumer confidence, versus resi HVAC's inventory problems?
Channel inventory on both residential and commercial sides is at roughly normal/target levels; distributors may be prudent given new-construction hesitancy, but inventories are about where they should be.
What changed in the CapEx guidance versus three months ago?
CapEx was lowered slightly as some planned Q4 investments were pushed into early next year, partly related to watching DOE commercial regulatory initiatives and being prudent until there is more certainty.
How do you prioritize capital allocation going forward if macro headwinds persist?
The dividend (raised 32 years) is very important and viewed on a yield basis; buybacks are sized to avoid growing cash while reserving firepower for acquisitions. Capital is still deployed to the resilient, cash-generating core business while pursuing adjacencies into higher-growth areas.
Was the reduction to the lower end of the full-year guide due exclusively to China?
Two factors: the China outlook was revised down to a decline of about 10%, which was a big part, and weakness on the North America residential side, now seen as flat to slightly down versus a previously flat market.
Does the guide contemplate October industry shipments improving after a weak September, and what are you seeing in October?
August was down quite a bit on residential and September was also weak; no October industry data is available yet, but the company's own orders have not shown resiliency, particularly on the wholesale side tied to new home construction, supporting the flat-to-slightly-down view. The CFO added that Q3 industry was down but AOS gained share through level-loaded production.

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