Saree Boroditsky — Analyst, Jefferies
Hi, thanks for taking the question. I have to say, I appreciate all the details on the guidance this quarter. That was a great thing to see. Maybe if we can ask for a little bit more within the EBITDA guidance, maybe just talk through how you're thinking about the contribution by segment.
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, Saree, this is Bryan. I'll take that one. I think you'll see margins evolve a little bit, similarly as the revenue trend works out through the year. With Q3 revenues stepping down a little bit, we'll obviously lose a little bit of operating margin. You'll probably see margins slightly down in Q3 as opposed to Q2, before stepping back up where Q4 is traditionally our strongest margin quarter, and we'll also benefit from higher revenues in Q4 over Q3.
Saree Boroditsky — Analyst, Jefferies
Great. And then on residential, could you just update us on where the grill's run rate revenues and margin performance are? Are there any footprint changes planned in this business? How do you think about mitigating some of that tariff impact?
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, obviously, the business was on a growth trajectory for us at the beginning of the grill season, before having the full force of the tariffs hit us. It is still, I will say, in that $100 million-$150 million range, run rate that it's been operating in for the past couple of years now.
Saree Boroditsky — Analyst, Jefferies
Appreciate the call.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
So, Saree.
Saree Boroditsky — Analyst, Jefferies
Thank you. I'm sorry.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, no, I'll kind of add on the second part of the question. As Bryan said, we actually were seeing real growth coming into the year. With the tariffs, that came to pretty much a switching halt and then actually reversed the other way, as our channel partners are taking inventory levels down to extremely low levels. We think we, you know, even potentially being out of stock later this year. That's obviously challenging, and I think that's where the top line is putting pressure on the bottom line. I think as we play it out over a longer period of time, at some point that is going to turn. We did, there was a fair bit of investment and integration over the last couple of years of consolidating our outdoor grill platform.
When you actually look at the platform, where they're operating as one team, consolidated customer service, distribution, etc., we have better leverage in that model when volumes return. That was part of our plan to expand the margins up to kind of double digits. We're obviously far below that now, but we're positioned to benefit as the market comes back to, I'll say, some level of reasonableness.
Saree Boroditsky — Analyst, Jefferies
Appreciate the call. Thank you.
Joe Grabowski — Senior Research Associate, R. W. Baird
Hey, good morning, guys. It's Joe Grabowski on for Mig this morning.
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
Hey, Joe.
Joe Grabowski — Senior Research Associate, R. W. Baird
Good morning. I also wanted to say that we appreciated the guidance. It's very helpful. I also wanted to ask a question on the guidance. It seems like the guidance implies that Q3 consolidated organic sales are going to be down low single digit, but then Q4 consolidated organic sales are going to be down mid-single digit. Assuming that's correct, is it mostly just a factor of the prior year comparison or anything else you want to call out?
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
I think, this is Bryan. That is an accurate representation of things. I've commented before, is it more useful to look at the business in terms of what did it do yesterday and how it's performing sequentially versus last year, as obviously from year to year, factors change and tariffs have been a big one this year and how consumer sentiment has evolved. Nonetheless, I think you've appropriately interpreted the guidance we've put out there.
Joe Grabowski — Senior Research Associate, R. W. Baird
Perfect. My next question would be on the outlook for the large QSR customers in the second half. It seems like maybe it's gotten a little worse than where we were 90 days ago. Maybe just talk a little bit more about what you're seeing with large QSR customers. I think you mentioned that new store openings were being revised down. Do you think that's just going to get pushed out to next year or just any color you can give would be helpful?
Steve Spittle — CCO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, good morning, Joe. This is Steve. Happy to cover it. I think what we've predominantly seen from the major QSR customers is a couple of dynamics that are affecting both new store development and just overall replacement upgrade orders. I think number one, really all of this year, traffic through the QSR segment has been down. Predominantly, pretty much the entire year, they've been down in some cases double digits over prior year periods. That's number one. Number two, I think just continued cost pressures that the QSRs are facing, whether it's labor, whether it's food, construction of opening new locations, and then you have the backdrop of uncertainty from tariffs. I think as a result of that, you're seeing their new store pipeline push out.
I've talked about in prior calls about the benefit that we've seen over the last several years is we have a lot more transparency into the new store pipeline from our customers. If you look at where that pipeline has evolved from the beginning of the year to even the end of the first quarter to now, that pipeline certainly has pushed out to the right, if you will, and it's pushing more and more into 2026 and out of the back half of the year. That is a big driver of what you're seeing in the revised guidance. I think secondly, that all the dynamics that we're talking about from a headwind standpoint are also having an impact on just the overall replacement and upgrade cycle that those QSRs go through.
Those are the big drivers of what we're seeing from the QSRs in the back half of the year.
Joe Grabowski — Senior Research Associate, R. W. Baird
Got it. Okay, that's very helpful. If I can just maybe sneak in one more question. You mentioned that the tariff impact was expected to be fully offset by the start of next year in part through operating initiatives. You know, you don't have to be specific, but just kind of generally speaking, what would some of those operating initiatives be, you know, in addition to price increases to offset the tariffs?
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
I think it's several, but the largest is really supply chain. I mean, I think one of the things that we had invested in over the last handful of years is our operating team, but we've got significant supply chain strength. A lot of that kind of went to, I'll say, firefighting as we went through the last few years with supply chain disruption. We spent a lot of time really leveraging our supply base, expanding that, moving to other non-tariff markets, etc. There is a lot of, I'll say, scale and capabilities that we have there that are helping to offset some of the tariffs or perhaps even reduce costs, which is really our long-term goal, to drive supply chain for savings in the future. I think those are things that are well underway and reaping some benefits.
Joe Grabowski — Senior Research Associate, R. W. Baird
Got it. Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. Good luck in Q3.
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
Thanks, Joe.
Jeff Hammond — Analyst, KeyBanc
Hey, good morning.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Morning, Jeff.
Jeff Hammond — Analyst, KeyBanc
I'll echo the comments on the guide. Appreciate the color there and a formal guide. I just wanted to hit the, I guess, the $25 million-$35 million of tariff impact that's not going to be covered this year. Can you give us a better sense of how that's impacted by business? It seems like maybe FP and Res Kitchen are impacted a little bit more, but if you could break that down a little bit better, that'd be great.
Steve Spittle — CCO, The Middleby Corporation
Jeff, this is Steve. I'm happy to take a pass at it. We covered a little bit on the last call. It's actually not quite as you outlined. If you think of the three segments and the tariff impact overall, I'd say roughly 60%-65% of the impact is coming in commercial, which is about the overall spend for the company. Residential is in the 20%-25% of the overall impact, and then food processing would be the remaining at 10%-15%. Food processing is actually probably the least impacted compared to the other two segments. A big driver for that is that if you look at overall sourcing, food processing sources less componentry and parts from China compared to the other two segments. In residential, you also have the grill impact. That's why that's a little bit higher than food processing as well.
Those would be the three breakdowns, but food processing would be the lowest of the three.
Jeff Hammond — Analyst, KeyBanc
Okay, great. That's very helpful. I think, Bryan, you said you characterized FP as modestly improving from a trend. Can you just give us what you're seeing in terms of order rates and backlog growth, kind of cutting through the quarter-to-quarter lumpiness? I know you announced a deal. Just kind of speak to M&A pipeline in FP as you think about as you head into the spin.
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, the order trends have been improving throughout the year. That was behind my commentary. I would say our book-to-bill is above one, but some of those orders don't deliver in one, two, three months. It takes a little bit of time for them to roll out and such. That's driving the positiveness in my tone there. Accordingly, backlog is also growing compared to where we started the year. As you've seen, we obviously made an acquisition in this space and do have an active pipeline. We've said that M&A will be part of the strategy for this segment. I would expect to see more of that in the future.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Great. It's one of amongst many reasons for the spin. It is a very active pipeline. As we get closer to the spin, obviously, we'll focus on execution there, but it is a robust pipeline. We're excited about that last acquisition of Frigomeccanica. While it's not large to Middleby, it's somewhat meaningful to food processing. It actually adds quite a bit of competencies to our platform, both product and in category. It is pretty strategic in nature. There are exciting things ahead with that.
Jeff Hammond — Analyst, KeyBanc
Okay, thanks a lot.
Tim Thein — Analyst, Raymond James
Right, thank you. Good morning. The first question was a follow-up for an earlier conversation with Steve on the commercial business. I'm just curious on these profit and margin pressures that have been ongoing for your restaurant customers and franchisees. I'm curious if you're seeing or have seen any impact in terms of maybe product mix or maybe share moving around, i.e., is there any shift to lower spec equipment or less technology uptake? I guess one could make the argument maybe they'd go the other way if there's issues around labor availability. Just curious, that just general question.
Steve Spittle — CCO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, good morning, Tim. It's a great question. I think maybe to cover the last part of your question first, I think it is the opposite of what you're seeing. I don't think we've seen a trade down in terms of cost and spec in the equipment. I think what's been an interesting nuance, especially in the QSR segment, is they're trying to figure out how to solve for getting traffic back through locations, trying to still overcome costs. You're seeing them focus on bringing in additional day parts to their traffic. That focuses around bringing in new menu items, new categories they haven't been in before. A big push that we've seen with several of the big QSRs has been around beverage, of adding beverage to their existing footprint and existing menu, which obviously we've talked a lot about beverage before, but we're so well-positioned in these categories.
When you think of beverage being ice, coffee, dispense, could be frozen products from a company like Taylor. There are companies out there that manufacture ice, manufacture dispense, manufacture coffee. There's nobody else that does it in one company. I think that's what's so powerful about how we're working with the QSRs right now in the space. We're the one-stop solution for what we can bring to the table. To answer the question holistically, they're continuing to look for new menu items, new day parts to drive traffic. These QSRs, it's not just competing with QSRs anymore. It's competing with C-stores, competing with grocery stores. I think that's why you're seeing it. To answer your last question, they are focused more and more on actually the higher technology products that allow them to be more efficient, reduce energy usage, take out labor, take out training.
It just unfortunately takes a little bit of time to get these products to market through the corporate side, through the franchisee side to bring them to market. I don't know if I answered the question holistically, but that's what we're really focused on working on with the big chain customers right now.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
I would just take a recap of that. I think we would have, despite that we're down there, we've actually gained share at the same customers that we're down with. We have more products approved as you go across our top chains in the system than we had prior. If you look at a lot of the rollouts that Steve just alluded to, a lot of the things that maybe they deferred this year, we see coming in the next couple of years. That's part of our pipeline that we're excited about. We feel like we're winning with that segment. It's just a segment under pressure, but we're pretty confident it's going to turn at some point.
Tim Thein — Analyst, Raymond James
Okay. Thank you. Maybe, Tim, I don't know, I forget if it was you or Bryan that mentioned the comment about the long-term target to grow EPS high single to low double-digit growth. I'm just thinking about the long-term profile of the commercial business. Obviously, this post-COVID period has been distorted in many ways. How would you think about just kind of the underlying growth of the commercial business? Is it, it used to be kind of a GDP plus plus and in recent years it's kind of normalized. I'm guessing you have plans for, would think of pretty nice outgrowth. I'm just curious how you think in that construct, to grow EPS double-digit annually, what you would think about in terms of the underlying growth of the global commercial business. Thank you.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Okay, I'll let Bryan kind of pick up on the second part of the EPS translation. We do think of it as in GDP plus business, right? I mean, I think we have built a lot of the pluses with the innovation pipeline, our go-to-market, incremental new target markets, right, that are new to us. Obviously, we talk a lot about ice and beverage, which are, we're just in early stages of attacking. That's kind of incremental on top of industry growth. You have the longer-term pieces of IoT and automation. We do think those things are going to show up and be of growing importance once we kind of get past the disrupted period. That gets us to the GDP or industry plus growth.
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
Translating that to EPS growth, I think there are two reasons that the EPS grows, I'll say, two levels above what the revenue is happening. We've consistently demonstrated in the past that I'll call it our earnings growth exceeds our revenue growth as we look at how well we manage margins, operating leverage, the benefits of offering better technologies to our customers, right? The things that Middleby has been doing for decades now. I would say that has earnings at higher growth rates than revenue. Layer on top of that the additional benefits from our capital allocation and our buyback gives it one more lift up. I think that's how you can bridge from, let's say, a mid to high single-digit growth rate into potentially a double-digit earnings growth rate. Our products, our operational excellence, and our capital allocation all work together really well.
There is what we see in the future.
Tim Thein — Analyst, Raymond James
Understood. Thank you very much.
Bryan Mittelman — CFO, The Middleby Corporation
You bet.
Tami Zakaria — Analyst, JPMorgan
Hi, good morning. Thank you so much. My first question is, could you refresh us on how you're thinking about your direct-to-customer initiatives? Any thoughts on furthering your equipment and part sales by enhancing the DTC channel? Any launches in the pipeline or ideas in the pipeline that we should look forward to in the coming quarters or the coming years? I think that would be helpful.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Tami, I think we're all trying to make sure we understand your question properly. I'll maybe start talking a little bit, but then I'll ask you to clarify. Over the last few years, I mean, I talk about go-to-market a lot. We are very focused on how do we build a machine that surrounds the end user, right? That has to do with how do we bring innovation to market, leveraging, I'll say, newly created capabilities. For example, you've been to our innovation center, right? That's a big investment. We've had 30,000+ customers come through there, built a culinary team, totally revamped our rep organization, which a lot of those reps are new that are fully aligned with Middleby to sell the breadth of all of our brands and really focus on higher technology solutions, right?
That's not only a big investment, but we kind of disrupted ourselves in the process, but we're also great at training that team and working side by side. We've invested heavily in digital tools, and maybe that's what you're alluding to a bit, and that cuts across a lot, but we do think that goes right to the end user with content, education, and developing a funnel. One of the things that we have not talked a lot about, but we will in upcoming quarters and in the year, is our service initiatives, which we think will further differentiate us. We're not necessarily selling direct to the end user, but we've got all of these capabilities and channel partners that we're very well-aligned with, and we strengthen those partnerships to provide not only excellent engagement, but bring to them the latest innovations that we have.
It's taken us a while to build these capabilities, and it's significant investments, but we believe we're kind of gaining significant traction that we can see on a quarter-by-quarter basis.
Tami Zakaria — Analyst, JPMorgan
Understood. That's very helpful.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Okay.
Tami Zakaria — Analyst, JPMorgan
Just to follow up, I was wondering, is there any plan or is there any business case for, you know, going direct to customer, even with sales, like having a website and having some of your business customers onboarded there so they can directly, you know, order from you and parts and new equipment alike? That was the genesis of my question, but I think you answered most of it.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Okay, I'll just comment two things. One, I mean, although we've got channel partners, we are engaging directly with end users in multiple ways. All those different elements I talked to are all about how we engage with those customers. End user customer engagement, I'll just say, is at an all-time high, and we've got capabilities we didn't have a few years ago to do that. I think that's paying dividends in some of the pipeline we are building. Digital is a piece of that, and we're evolving it. We are not going direct to customers, but it provides a channel for us to engage and educate customers.
Tami Zakaria — Analyst, JPMorgan
Understood. Thank you. That's all I had.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
There are new tools that are being deployed that are investments already made that will gain traction over the next year.
Brian McNamara — Analyst, Canaccord Genuity
Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I understand there's a lot of headwinds to deal with. I think CFS organic growth has declined for seven straight quarters now. This business used to grow high single digits organically, but it's been well below that for going, we're going back to 2017 now. I guess when should investors expect a sustainable return to growth here? Is the expectation when that growth returns to be more volume-driven?
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, I mean, I think we try to maybe comment on a few things. We are seeing growth in certain areas, right? The general market is starting to improve. Certain of the better performing segments within commercial food service, we are seeing a lift and doing pretty well. It really does come down to larger major chains where we're extremely well-positioned. I guess the answer to your question is kind of when does that, when does that turn? I don't think any of us believe that the chains are going away. If you kind of look at what's going on right now, there's a lot of retooling, right? There's the addressing menu, not only from a pricing standpoint, but from innovation, as Steve talked about. There's management changes going on. I think right now there's been a lot of disruption in the marketplace.
They're all kind of capturing where they're at. They're going to surge at some point is kind of our expectation. When that happens, we think that that's a longer runway, right? I think a lot of the headwinds that have happened over the last few years, which there's, we can go back each year and talk about what the new crisis of the year was. Hopefully, we'll have a couple of years without crisis and those chains will be able to execute on their strategies. We're very well-aligned with them. I think that's kind of when you get back to sustainable growth. I think we are very confident that we're better positioned than anybody. We've made those investments. I think that's kind of where you hear us talk about our business with confidence because we know we've done the work. That's why we've also elected to buy back shares.
I think there's not a better investment out there than Middleby in our view. We've been aggressive on that because I think we think about this over a long time and we know that's going to pay off.
Brian McNamara — Analyst, Canaccord Genuity
Great. We saw a lot of impressive innovation at NAFEM earlier this year that addresses customer pain points, whether it be labor savings or addressing other inefficiencies. Open Kitchen seems exciting. FryBot, PizzaBot, [convection] ovens, to name a few. How are those products performing relative to your internal expectations? How much do you, quite frankly, think the sales cycle has perhaps lengthened given tariff noise and other uncertainty in the marketplace?
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
I'm going to have James get a hit on it. I'll just kind of, that second piece, like the tariffs have extended things, right? I mean, anytime you have uncertainty and, you know, the tariffs were a cost impact to not only do equipment, but it did affect other areas, paper packaging, food, etc., right? I think anytime you have uncertainty, disruption, things get, you know, pushed to the right. That is definitely part of what we've seen this year and, you know, certainly, you know, in some of our thoughts about the market as it sits right now, which we also think will change. We do think we're getting, picking up, gaining traction on a lot of the exciting things that you alluded to at NAFEM. Maybe, you know, James, maybe you can hit IoT and some of the beverage automation.
James Pool — CTO and COO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, let's talk about IoT first. I think with our investments over the past several years, we've kind of hit a nice critical mass with connected products to offer to our customers. We're continually seeing an uptick in connected equipment sales through the channel, which is exciting. It's also been a tailwind for us on certain chain wins where we are winning rollouts because of our connectivity solution and having the products connected out of the gate. We're appreciating that. Also, on the Open Kitchen side, we're seeing some wins out in the market on the energy management side of the Open Kitchen platform. If you remember, Open Kitchen has energy management, has middle of the house cold chain management, and then it also has connected equipment management. No other platform out on the market has all three of those pieces tied together with a single pane of glass.
Very exciting there. On the new products that we showed at the NAFEM and NRA show, I will say that they are seating very nicely in the marketplace, starting to see some good traction there. We'll start to benefit nicely in 2026, and as we go into 2027, as volume picks up. I tell you where we're really excited is with beverage. Tim talked a lot about the beverage innovations that we have coming down the pike. I just want to echo that we have some really game-changing dispensing and dosing technologies coming out from Newton and L2F, where we are bringing kind of future-proof beverage dispensing to the restaurant industry, enabling them to rapidly adopt new beverage platforms within their organizations. Coupling that with some game-changing automation from L2F, we really expect to see some nice revenues in 2026 from our beverage platform.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
I'll give a little bit of perspective of the heavy lifting James and team have done because, you know, we bought what we thought was the industry-leading platform with Powerhouse Dynamics. James and team developed the application Open Kitchen. That's a multi-year kind of lift and investment. At the same time, the team developed the Middleby OneTouch Control. That was kind of done in a period when controls weren't available. It wasn't that long ago. Everybody's probably forgotten about it, but you couldn't buy controls a couple of years ago. We've launched the Middleby OneTouch Control, which James has across the breadth of our brands and our platform. That's very powerful for everybody to have that one simple experience when you're interacting with Middleby. Those controls are tied to IoT out of the box. That all came together effectively at the beginning of 2025.
This is a several-year, multi-prong initiative that really, like game time, was the beginning of this year. We're building new muscle with the sales team as we're bringing it to market. Now our customers are asking for it. As James said, we've got some wins and we've got customers who it was a factor in why they bought the equipment. In some cases, it was the deciding factor. I think we feel good about where we're at and what is the long-term journey. Nobody else is anywhere positioned to where we are. These are significant investments that not only we've made that are hard to remake, but because of the scale of the portfolio, they bring a different value with Middleby than they would with an individual product.
Brian McNamara — Analyst, Canaccord Genuity
Appreciate the call. Thanks, guys. Pass it on.
Walt Liptak — Analyst, Seaport Research
Hi, thanks, guys. My question's on the capital allocation. It looks like with the purchases that you might have made so far in the third quarter, you're at about $500 million of buybacks so far this year. Do we continue, do you think you'll be continuing on with buybacks sort of at that rate in the back half of the year? Are you thinking about other sorts of capital allocation for the back half?
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
I think I'll start off, but Brian will kind of clean up. I think we indicated that that was a strategy. Obviously, then we indicated that was an accelerated or more committed strategy. I think we were very focused on making sure we executed on the buybacks sooner rather than later, given a variety of things, including, A, it's the best idea, B, things that we were focused on operationally and other areas. I think we wanted to make sure that we kind of got ahead of our buyback strategy. I think we're going to continue with buyback. That is a longer-term view and we think a great investment. We definitely kind of weighted it towards the front end, was the thinking there, to take advantage of where the stock price is.
Walt Liptak — Analyst, Seaport Research
Okay, great. Your debt ratio looks like it's about 2.5%. I just wanted to understand the M&A strategy going forward. It sounds like FP might have some deals that you could do maybe in the back half. In the past, you've always consolidated and done good acquisitions in the CFS segment too. During the sector weakness, wouldn't this be a good time to be consolidating and looking at deals? Is CFS still, do they still have a deal pipeline?
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Look, I think a couple of things. If you look at where we were allocating capital to acquisitions over the last several years, it was heavily, food processing was a significant portion of the deals. That was growing because of that business in the lifecycle, the fragmentation of the industry. Hence, you know, again, one of the factors of us thinking about the separation. That's going to be a fast-growing company driven both by organic growth as well as strategic M&A. That is where a lot of the acquisition capital was going. That doesn't really change with the strategy of it separating. When you look at commercial food service, we're at a different size and scale today. We have done a lot of acquisitions. We've built out a lot of the platforms.
Even as of the more recent periods, a lot of the acquisition capital turned to beverage and ice, which there are some opportunities there, but we've also built that out nicely. I will say some of our longer-term initiatives around IoT automation and controls. I won't say that we're done, but we also have, you know, added a lot over the last several years. We're very focused on, I'll say, integrating all of those opportunities and driving organic growth through our, we will continue to evaluate, you know, compelling and opportunistic opportunities that we think could strategically, you know, fit the platform. Given where we're at right now, you know, our share price is compelling. Number one, B, we want to focus on execution of the spin from a bandwidth standpoint. C, probably the most significant or obvious opportunities are still in food processing today.
I think that's kind of how we're thinking about the priorities. It doesn't mean that there will never be another commercial food service, you know, acquisition. I think we're focused on kind of those immediate priorities.
Walt Liptak — Analyst, Seaport Research
Okay, yeah, I would be surprised if you didn't do any more CFS deals. Maybe just the last one. While you were answering another question, you talked about how replacement of equipment in the field, that in CFS, that there's some delays in refurbishments or replacement. I can't remember if I've ever heard you guys talk about that in the past. What's the driver of that? What should we think about for when maybe some pent-up demand for replacement comes back?
Steve Spittle — CCO, The Middleby Corporation
Yeah, good question. This is Steve. We have talked about it a fair bit in the past. If you look at the last, I'll call it 10 years of commercial growth, a lot of growth going back to, call it the 2012-2016 period. Think about all that equipment that has been in the field. A normal life cycle of a piece of equipment is anywhere between five to seven years. Let's just use seven years as the baseline. You would normally expect that all that equipment, that period of growth, would be up for replacement. What happened was so many of the franchisees going into COVID were focused on front-of-the-house initiatives. COVID happened, supply chain happened, disruption happened, and now the tariff disruption has happened. Everything's kind of kicked the can down the road and just pushed it out further and further to the right.
I think we are going to have to come to an inflection point. You do have a pretty large base of existing equipment that does need to be upgraded. It is more and more expensive to repair the equipment. Ultimately, if you lead to a place where you cannot serve food because your equipment is down, it's just going to push more and more towards a replacement period. They have to still solve for, hey, can my equipment help me with labor efficiencies, energy savings, everything we've already talked about? I think we feel like it has been pent up for such a long period now that it has to come through.
I guess a little bit of the question is when does it come through, but I do think we're getting closer just because you can only push it off for so long until you really have to take a hard look at upgrading the equipment. I think it's something you see start to pick up as we get into probably next year and the years following.
Walt Liptak — Analyst, Seaport Research
Okay, great. Thank you.
Tim FitzGerald — CEO, The Middleby Corporation
Thanks, everybody, for joining us on today's call. We look forward to speaking to you next quarter.