Ronald Epstein — Analyst, Bank of America
Hey, good morning, guys, and thanks. Gus, thanks for the commentary around the, you know, the current environment out there. When you think about, I don't know, potentially the duration of what's going on in the Middle East, when would you expect it or not to start impacting residual values of older planes? You know, when you guys think about that, how should we think about that?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Thanks, Ron. Well, it's important to look at what's actually happening on the ground in terms of flights. The average daily number of flights in April of 2025 was 102,833. In April 2026, the average number of flights is 102,131. Ron, I give that number because the amount of daily flights, the reduction year-over-year for the same period is 0.068%. So far we have seen a de minimis impact. It's not to say we won't see more of an impact over the rest of the year if fuel remains elevated. To date, the number of flights that were down is a de minimis amount.
Now, it takes airlines years to adjust a fleet plan, and any aircraft we have on lease are on lease for a long period of time. I would say it'd be quite a significant period of time before we were to see older-technology aircraft being replaced or exiting a fleet. An airline cannot just exit the aircraft type. As it pertains to AerCap at any rate, we have the greatest concentration of new technology aircraft in the world of any major airline or leasing company at over 80%. It'll take some time, Ron.
Ronald Epstein — Analyst, Bank of America
Got it. Got it. Then maybe one follow on. Just kind of thinking out loud here. If I were an airline and I wanted to protect my balance sheet, but I still wanted to bring on new airplanes, why wouldn't I just go to you? I mean, I'm not trying to throw you a softball here, but it would seem like in the current environment that leasing an airplane might be a more attractive option to an airline that might not have wanted to do that before. In maybe some sort of a weird way, could this be a stimulus for you guys, or am I just thinking about that wrong?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
No, it certainly. I mean, look, there's no doubt that if higher fuel prices continue, you will see reduced financial flexibility that the airlines have. Bear in mind, as I said in my prepared comments.
The OEMs are over-indexed to airlines, the weaker credits of their customer base. Four airlines alone make up more than the entire order book of the leasing industry. I would imagine that if this were to continue, there will be opportunity in sale leasebacks as you referenced there, Ron.
Ronald Epstein — Analyst, Bank of America
Okay, great. Thank you very much.
Jamie Baker — Analyst, JPMorgan
Oh yeah, thanks for the time. Gus, kind of building on that, specific to used aircraft sales that, you know, transactions that you're already working on in the pipeline, since the start of the war, have any aircraft sales fallen through or settled at lower than hoped for economics, given that presumably some portion of your customer base is, you know, happy to take a pause on growth? Of course, you know, fuel efficiency has probably never been more important than today.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Well, fuel efficiency is definitely important. You're absolutely right, Jamie. While I highlight in my prepared comments that 57% of our transactions closed in March when the war had started, we have not seen anyone pull out of a sale yet or try to renegotiate one. While you're right, fuel is important, there still is a tremendous demand for CFM products in particular because of the scarcity of those engines in the market. As of yet, we haven't seen anybody pull back, and I ask that question every day here of the trading team, and there's no sign of it.
Jamie Baker — Analyst, JPMorgan
Excellent. Then, specific to the Middle Eastern airlines, you know, at what duration of elevated fuel do we need to start questioning whether twin-aisle demand specifically will continue to exceed supply? I know you spoke to what the world might look like after six months sort of in general, but my question is more specific to the Middle East and the demand for wide-bodies. Thanks in advance.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
That's a fair point, Jamie. When I referenced the daily number of reduction in flights, of course, they're heavily concentrated in the Middle East on wide-bodies. Now, there are winners in this too. I'll give you an example. We had two A350s coming back from a customer in China. Those aircraft, I was with the CEO of a major European carrier at the end of March when the war was in full swing.
Jamie Baker — Analyst, JPMorgan
Mm-hmm.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
He just said to me, "Just tell the team, call them, tell them we're taking them. No debate. We want them as fast as possible." I give that as an anecdote because there are winners here too. For the last 15 years, major European and other Asian carriers have obviously had a very difficult time with the Gulf carriers. Now is their chance. Those carriers that can fly around the Gulf and connect Europe to the Far East, they are doing well now. They are all looking for lift. We thought we had another package of wide-bodies that we could take out of a customer three weeks ago. Within a week, we had quite a number of bids lined up. The customer actually then decided to hold onto the wide-body aircraft.
There's no doubt, though, that over a period of time for the Middle Eastern carriers that but I would never write off the Middle Eastern carriers. They will be back, of course. I think it would have to take a very significant period of time before the airlines that are owned by the state of Qatar, Abu Dhabi, and Kuwait and Dubai would let orders go. I do think, to be fair, though, what you might see is a greater reliance on the leasing industry to finance those aircraft if and when they come, but I would not see them being canceled.
Jamie Baker — Analyst, JPMorgan
Excellent call. Thank you, Gus.
Moshe Orenbuch — Analyst, TD Cowen
Great. Thanks. I was just wondering, you know, if you could kinda talk a little bit, given that your capital levels, you know, have been stable despite, you know, all of the buyback, how do you think about, you know, deployment of that and what opportunities are out there? I mean, in the deck, you mentioned kind of $5 billion of expected CapEx, but are there ways to kind of enhance that? You know, how else should we think about that in the balance of 2026?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Well, as you've seen year after year after year, we find accretive opportunities that are additive to shareholder value, and I would back AerCap to do the same again this year. As you've seen, due to the unique capabilities the business has, we were able to solve the issues for our business partners in CFM and for an airline partner in Frontier, be able to take aircraft and engines out of Frontier, put them into our engine leasing pool. As part of that, because we did that freed up capacity in the Airbus production line, and we were able to exercise options and get slots that no one else in the world could get access to, as I referenced, that they start in 2028.
I would imagine that as the year goes on, we will find other opportunities, either because of the unique as I just outlined, or due to if we do see, more pressure on airline balance sheets, I think we'll see some opportunities. Every year after year, we've managed to find, asset growth opportunities. Then of course, look, we also believe that the cheapest aircraft in the world, as I've said before, are available on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker Alpha Echo Romeo, and we are leaning into that as well. Certainly at any time of weakness in the stock price, we will lean into that.
Moshe Orenbuch — Analyst, TD Cowen
Great. Just as a quick follow-up, I apologize, I've been bouncing between calls this morning. Did you give any update on the kind of the maintenance and return to service on the Spirit aircraft?
Peter Juhas — CFO, AerCap
We didn't specifically give any update on that. I mean, as I mentioned before, we're looking at kind of latter part of this year, where the first of those may come back into service. They're going into the shop as planned, and then we'll look to see some revenue coming off those late this year.
Moshe Orenbuch — Analyst, TD Cowen
Great. Thanks very much.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Sure.
Catherine O'Brien — Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the time. Gus, a follow-up on your answer to Moshe, on AerCap's track record of sourcing unique growth opportunities over the last couple of years. I mean, I know you're not gonna give us exact numbers, but could you provide some color on how the acquisition costs or projected returns on these transactions compare to what you would have seen by placing a direct OEM order or, you know, acquiring assets via sale leaseback RFP?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Well, of course, you know, look, we don't mind how we spend our money so long as we make money. When we make money, we make it in, at a level that's comparable to the alternatives we have in the business, for example, buying back stock, et cetera. Look, what I would say, Catherine, is that you have to work hard. I can be lazy and just roll up to an OEM at the air shows and place an order that starts delivering in 2032 and finishes in 2038 and get crushed on escalation and take massive placement risk for an environment I've no idea about. Leaving that alternative aside for AerCap, which we won't do, we work very hard, and the infrastructure and scale that we have has enabled us to continually generate opportunities.
You've seen not just that you've seen the results of those opportunities in the P&L, today and in previous quarters, and you'll see it in quarters to come.
Catherine O'Brien — Analyst, Goldman Sachs
That's great. I know last quarter you said you were investigating aeroderivatives for data center power generation. If you've got any updated thoughts, that'd be great to hear too. Really wondering if you're already seeing elevated demand for your aircraft or engines from those already pursuing converting engines for this use.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Well, the discussions have continued, and those discussions are with data-center builders. There's two components. The guys who build data centers, there's the actual shed itself, as they say, and then there's the interior, the complex engineering behind the interior build of the, of the aeroderivative. We've spoken to the OEMs, and we've spoken to others who will be involved in the converting of an engine into a mobile gas-powered unit. Now, we've also spoken to end users. In the end users, there's different stripes. There's guys who are property developers that build data centers and then try and lease out the space. Then, of course, there's a much stronger credit quality, which would be very large corporate entities such as hyperscalers and others. What is clear is that there is significant demand today and probably in the near term.
At the moment, it's less clear where the demand is in the long term. It may well be very strong. The sales cycle appears to be long as well. That being said, it's something we are continuing to investigate and also to get a full handle on the cost and the R&D that's going on with the two companies who could actually convert the engines for us. We have to get firm costs and an idea of true long-term demand. To the final point, of course, if there are other entities out there, and there are two, that are looking to buy commercial aerospace engines and put them into aeroderivatives, if that does become a significant market, of course we will participate indirectly in that way. As yet, we don't see that.
Catherine O'Brien — Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Great. Thank you so much for all the color.
Terry Ma — Analyst, Barclays
Hey, thank you. Good morning. Maybe just starting with the CFM engine deal, can you maybe just talk about the lease rates or the returns on those engines compared to what they were kind of generating when they were on the original aircraft?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Sure, Terry. The lease rates on those are basically the same. We're basically getting the same amount as we were on the aircraft as a whole.
Terry Ma — Analyst, Barclays
Great. Okay. If we were to think about the net spread margin going forward and just kind of like the moving pieces, doesn't sound like there's much downtime on the engines. You have Spirit Aircraft coming online, and you do have a large bond maturing. Like, what's the kind of trajectory or cadence of the net spread margin?
Peter Juhas — CFO, AerCap
Sure. As I mentioned, a couple of quarters ago, we expected to have the net spread be pretty consistent over the next few quarters. It was 8% this quarter, same as third quarter, same as fourth quarter. I think that will probably continue for another couple of quarters. Later in the year, we should see some expansion. As I mentioned, some of that is gonna be driven by some of those assets that are currently on the ground coming back online. We'll have some more freighters delivering late in the year, that's part of it as well. I'd look for some uplift in the second half of the year.
Terry Ma — Analyst, Barclays
Got it. That's helpful. If we were to look at ROE, you guys kind of generated impressive, you know, 19% adjusted ROE this quarter, you know, at a time when the business is, you know, well under your leverage ratio. Is there kind of like a way to think about normalized ROE through the cycle once you kind of normalize that leverage?
Peter Juhas — CFO, AerCap
Yeah, well, if we look at the long term, like say from 2007 to now, on average, we've generated ROEs of about 950 basis points above the five-year treasury. That's how we've looked at it over the long term. If you look at the last few years, each year we've been between 14% and 15% roughly for the last few years. This quarter obviously was quite high with the 19.5%. That was driven by, you know, somewhat by the higher maintenance contribution, by the higher gains on sale and those type of things. Nonetheless, we would expect to continue running at very high levels. Now as you note correctly, we're at low leverage now. I think over time we're gonna normalize that.
It's gonna go back to 2.4x, 2.5x, something like that. That should be a positive for ROE, right? As we deploy more of that capital.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
I think, Terry, the key point for me, as I've always said to you, is that this business generates extremely stable returns and does through thick and thin. As Pete said, we're going back 18 years in those numbers. These are GAAP numbers. They're not adjusted. In the short term, sure, you can adjust numbers, but in the long run, it has to be GAAP. The GAAP ROE of this business, Pete said, is 9.5% above the five-year treasury for that period, for 19-odd years. There's very few of any companies in our industry, be it industrial or otherwise, that could match those ROEs. When we look forward, as I said, I've always said, that the business through thick and thin should be in and around 8%-10% above the risk-free rate, the five-year treasury.
Terry Ma — Analyst, Barclays
Great. Super helpful. Thank you.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Sure.
Kristine Liwag — Analyst, Morgan Stanley
Hey, good morning, everyone, or I guess good afternoon for you guys. You know, the Airbus A320neo family orders that you were able to get, I was surprised that there were available slots in 2028. I was wondering if you could talk more about the terms and how this opportunity came about. I thought that the aircraft was more sold out beyond 2028, also that you mentioned in your prepared remarks that it was in fairly attractive terms. Any details that you could provide would be appreciated.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Sure, Kristine, you are right. I think if you walked up to Toulouse for the air show and asked for an order, they'd probably start in 2033, 2032. Now why was AerCap different, and why is it consistently different? Well, it's to do with what we can do for key suppliers and key business partners. In this instance, because we're the largest engine-leasing business in the world, we knew there was a shortage of engines in the global business. Globally for all airlines, a shortage of CFM LEAP engines. We knew that a key business partner of ours, Frontier, would like to reduce capacity. We had the infrastructure, and it was very important to be able to move rapidly. Given enough time, you know, others might be able to do it over a couple of years.
We were able to get the engines out of Frontier within a matter of months, within a matter of weeks, start redelivering those engines, getting them into our lease pool and getting them out there to support the in-service fleet of Airbus neo equipment. This meant that there was less pressure on the production line to divert engines to the spare-engine pool, and more slots would be available then to produce new aircraft. We're helping the airframer, the engine OEM, and our airline customer. No other leasing company in the world can do that. That enabled those slots to free up, and we had options that we could exercise with Airbus, and we exercised them. That's why our 100+ aircraft, the vast majority of them will have delivered by the time I'd say any other leasing company could begin an order stream.
Kristine Liwag — Analyst, Morgan Stanley
Great. Super helpful context. You know, Gus, maybe, this is more of an opportunistic question, but with the breadth of your portfolio, the quality of your balance sheet, it seems like you're really poised to take advantage, financially of some of these, you know, incrementally distressed situations. If, you know, oil prices, were to, you know, extend beyond the six months in an elevated way, you know, can you talk about, you know, if you do start seeing distressed airlines there, is there a way for you to size incremental opportunities or things that you could do to increase your return? Because, you know, you seem to be in a position to do that. You've consistently done it.
Any sort of color you could provide there and how you're poised for that, again, would be appreciated.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Thank you, Kristine. We are, of course, at the lowest leverage we've been at with a very large balance sheet with $21 billion of liquidity. That all being said, I certainly don't wish for the current situation to drag on any longer than is humanly possible. We certainly would not like to see it drag on for the rest of the year, and hopefully it won't. No doubt, if that was the case, there would be pressure on some airlines. You know, would that just be a few airlines in difficulty? Probably. Would we be able to cope with that? Yes. To the other side, I suspect there would be opportunity, because as I mentioned earlier on, the OEM order books are heavily overweight the airline industry.
Four airlines alone have a greater order book than the entire leasing industry. To me, the OEM order book is over-indexed to the weaker credit of the airline industry on average than to the stronger credit of the lessor. I would imagine if we do continue to see these levels of elevated fuel prices, that there may well be opportunities.
Kristine Liwag — Analyst, Morgan Stanley
Great. Thank you.
Arren Cyganovich — Analyst, Truist Securities
Thanks. You know, this balance of a net negative for airlines of higher oil prices, you know, potentially for an extended period of time, being a net positive for you. I, I totally understand it, but it also seems a little, I don't know, backwards. Maybe talk a little bit about how lease rates would trend in those kind of scenarios. I'm assuming the gain on sales would probably come down quite a bit. You know, what are some of the, you know, negative impacts that you would, you would see that would balance out some of those positives?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Yeah, you're right. That's why I certainly wouldn't want this current fuel issue to resolve itself as fast as possible. You're right. In an example where there is significant stress on airlines over a period of time, of course, what you're going to see is reduced level of flying, but that will primarily affect older technology assets, of which, as I mentioned earlier on, AerCap has less than 20% in our portfolio, and most of them are on lease to fairly strong credit. They could get retired over time. You're right that it would be more if we were selling those assets, of course, the gain on sale will be lower, and there may well be a limited bid for it in time. That being said, those things can't happen overnight.
As it relates to leasing rates, yes, of course, if there is a reduction, a significant reduction in flying, there'll be some impact on lease rates. I want to go back to what we said about the ROE of this business. We're going back to 2007, the stability of the returns of this business have been proven through thick and thin. I would also say that we have found those opportunities that are accretive in the long term as well when we do have periods of difficulty.
Arren Cyganovich — Analyst, Truist Securities
Thank you. Appreciate it.
Shannon Doherty — Analyst, Deutsche Bank
Oh, hi. Thanks for taking my questions. First and foremost, have any of your airline customers reached out seeking concessions of any form given the cost pressure from higher fuel?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
As yet, we haven't agreed to anything material with the airlines. I'm sure that if this continues over the course of the next six months, we'll have guys coming in and asking us for some assistance. To me, I would think that would be very much in a case-by-case basis as we have in the past. I want to go back to what I said at the start of the prepared comments. Just give you to give you an overview of the entire industry. At the moment, level number of flights is down less than 1%. That could creep up, of course. I'm not saying it wouldn't. There will be pressure on airline balance sheets over a period of time. Right now, the fuel represents generally 30% of an airline's cost base.
Airlines, for the most part, are able to pass on a significant percentage of that, between 40% and 50% of it, a lot of them are being able to pass on in terms of cost, in terms of airfare increases. There's other steps airlines will take, which will be to reduce flying, voluntary leave for staff, for pilots, for flight crew, et cetera. So they will be able to mitigate a fair amount of this themselves. It will have a significant impact on airline profitability. From our standpoint, very key again, why are we so stable? Our profits are the same whether or not an airline makes $1 billion or breaks even. That's a very different analysis, of course, for the airline.
I would think like everything we see with this industry, this too will pass.
Shannon Doherty — Analyst, Deutsche Bank
Great. Thanks. Maybe for my second, Gus, can you break down any changes in demand that you're seeing for new versus old-technology aircraft? What is the historical lag in, you know, change in demand to the impact on market values and lease rates?
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Look, as yet, it's far too early to say an impact on market value and lease rates. Every transaction that we have had in the hopper, airlines are still pushing forward. There's one transaction where there's a change in management of the airline, and that's been put on pause. That was a handshake had happened, but that wasn't to do with the fuel crisis, I would say. Overall, as yet, we haven't seen it, but there's no doubt that I think if this were to last through the end of the year, the six months I referenced, and maybe a little bit before that you would see a reduction in the bid potentially for older technology assets. That's not a part of the market that we're particularly exposed to.
Many of you over the different investor presentations who've shown would have seen how we look at our sunset approach to the portfolio to get out of those older-tech assets. As I said, those older-tech assets that we have, most of them are on long-term leases as well, so they couldn't be returned anytime soon. You're right, I suppose, in terms of, if you're looking at gains on sale for those assets, that may well be a bit different, but it's not a huge part of our portfolio.
Chris Stathoulopoulos — Analyst, SIG
Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I have one question. Gus, I'm gonna frame it, just wanna hear your thoughts on how you're thinking about, I guess risk management here in a scenario where the business as a whole managing the portfolio, et cetera. In a scenario where fuel is higher for longer, perhaps we see as some of the airlines are pointing to demand elasticity or destruction and then, you know, some inflationary pressures on the consumer and consumer staples. I thought it was interesting how you mentioned around older technology retiring in a higher-for-longer fuel scenario. Maybe you could talk about that within what is unique to AerCap, this barbell approach. Holistically, portfolio risk, asset values and lease rates.
I think it's important here as we consider potential outcomes if fuel is three, six months, or 12 months higher, and this does then start to metastasize, if you will, into the broader economy, what is AerCap's approach to managing the portfolio with this older and new, and how are you thinking around things like asset values and lease rates? Thank you.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Sure. Well, like any challenge, you don't think about it when the challenge arrives. You have to be thinking about it for 10 years before. You rightly reference our barbell approach to the portfolio. Those of you who have seen those slides, and we show them time and again, is that from 2012 onwards, we took the view that we want to invest in new-technology assets or older versions of older technology if there was something of great value. Generally, get only by new-tech assets. That meant avoiding orders for 737s, A320s, A330s, and 777s because ultimately, those aircraft will be replaced by the newer technology. If you were to buy a 25-year asset in 2014 or 2015, it needs to be in service until 2039 or 2040.
Our view was, let's just make sure we're out of those assets, and particularly we never, ever buy any young variants of those assets. That's what we've been saying for many years on these calls, that the key is to always own assets that the remaining economic life can be consumed. I have no concern about owning a 777 today that's 20 years of age. For sure, they'll be in demand for the next five years. I certainly wouldn't want to own one that's 10 or 11 years old because I doubt it'll be in demand for 15 years of age. It was tempting 10 years ago to buy those assets, and many did.
From AerCap's perspective, as I've said, the way to look at our company and a portfolio risk is to say, "Well, show us the percentage that is old and new tech." We're 81% new, 19% previous to older tech. Look at the age of that older tech. With us, you'll see it's very old, and it's, for the most part, nearly all on lease. I'm not concerned about our carrying values in that regard for either old or new tech.
Chris Stathoulopoulos — Analyst, SIG
Okay. Thank you.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
You're welcome.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Well, thank you very much, everybody, and we look forward to speaking to you in three months' time, if not before.
Aengus Kelly — CEO, AerCap
Thank you, operator.